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Fat Man

I read the complaint and I thought it was pretty weak beer.

Tourre was only a VP, which is not very high in the GS hierarchy (Thursday the WSJ ran an article about GS's new building -- VPs don't get their own offices). His former superiors may disagree with his characterization of the deal.

However, the SEC did accomplish one thing with the complaint. The article about the IG's report on Stanford, which was pretty astounding in and of itself, was pushed into the second section of today's WSJ.

save_the_rustbelt

A failed bank robber is still guilty of bank robbery.

An incompetent con artist still committed a con.

Simplistic? Yes. True? Yes.

Lying, or withholding material information, is fraud, Even if Paulson and GS both lost eventually.

Free market capitalism must be honest free market capitalism, otherwise I'm with the regulators and plaintiff (yuck) lawyers.

Larry Ribstein

Not simplistic, just wrong and beside the point. The question is whether it's material. If it isn't, it's not fraud -- even if Paulson and GS gained. None of which goes to my main point about what the SEC is up to here.

For What Its Worth

So in the end....

Investment managers who could only invest in AAA rated securities (because many of them had a fiduciary responsibility to invest safely and with minimal risk) have become shark bait.

I'd say this is an unsuccessful outcome of the free market system at work.

From Princeton University paper, Computational Complexity and Information Asymmetry in Financial Products Arora, Barak, Brunnermeiery, Ge October 19, 2009

"...We show that designers of financial products can rely on computational intractability to disguise their information via suitable "cherry picking." They can generate extra pro fits from this hidden information, far beyond what would be possible in a fully rational setting."

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~rongge/derivative.pdf

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